thanks for all the help that your giving me on this. That actually didn't work out either..lol. I think its because of the properties for the header...etc..so i would have to add more margin's and play around with it a bit more. But i can use what you gave me as a sort of building block for it. I've also went to another site and posted the same thing, and they are giving me some feedback as well, so i will post what i get to work hopefully soon!