I agree but not agree. i agree if your really into programming your learn quick but sometime there r those who say they can program but use a editor which is like cheating on a test.at the school i go to, im the only in that class that knows how to program w/o a editor(i use notpad) in fact im really teaching others there
but im just learning PHP/mySQL and its ezr since i already have programming knowledge.and so far im working on a search engine that has some loops,echos,queries,fuctions,ect so its very complex but fun.hope my point made sence(tend to go off subject)