[michaelbyrd]

i have heard java 6.0 will be released soon maybe in June this year.
i am sure java will be more and more powerful

[King Coder]

Yeah, but I don't even use 1.5 that much. I'd rather wait until most users start using the 1.5 JRE and stuff so that they don't get a major/minor version error. Now, if they fix the backward compatibility issues, then I would go for it.

[michaelbyrd]

i totally agree with this.
more and more company use java for developing instead of other languages

[End User]

Originally Posted by Epix

Why should i use java? It seems slow. Not to much is written in it, but still people swear by it. Why should i be using it? What does it have to offer ofver Perl, PHP or Python??

JAVA: "Yesterday's Technology Tomorrow!"

JAVA: "Because You Don't Need It To Run Fast"

JAVA: "Because Having To Write More Code Is Better."

[michaelbyrd]

http://MichaelByrd.drivehq.com
visit here you may know why i love java

[ktm]

I have not yet heard a single intelligent argument against Java. It's a shame that all the Java opponents are ignorant. LEARN the language and its capabilities so that you don't make ignorant remarks about it.

I. Clearing up the Ignorances (Part 1): Java is NOT slow

Performance tests show that Java is NOT slow. .NET uses similar, interpreted technology. Of course, Java will be a tad slower than most translated languages, but that does not make it slow. It's like saying that an olympic sprinter is slow just because he came in second place.

Now, Java is NOT slow, but I'm going to give some alternative options to the standard JVM interpretation, just to put an end the "slow" argument.

1) You can just make a binary out of Java source files using GCJ, GNU's Java Compiler.

2) You can use a JIT in conjunction with the JVM which Sun claims executes instructions faster.

Another thing to be aware of is that the JVM has the ability to make performance optimizations during interpretation. It has more potential for performance optimizations then compilers do, because it can learn from the execution times of prior instructions, etc.

One more thing... all you PHP zealots, don't you know that PHP is interpreted just like Java?

II. Clearing up the Ignorances (Part 2): Java's extensive capabilities

Applications, applets, servlets, JSP, J2EE, J2ME, need I say more?

Originally Posted by nugensoftware

(saying JSP is java is like saying visual basic is ASP, similar but not the same.)

JSP embeds Java, it's Java technology, it's an advantage of Java and learning the language, you can't strip this benefit of Java for no reason.

III. Clearing up the Ignorances (Part 3): Different languages, different uses

Now, I'm not saying that Java is better than any other language, or vice versa. Every language has its strengths and weaknesses, and different languages shine in different situations. Java has definitely marked itself as one of the most powerful high-level languages, however. I think it's obvious that Java and .NET are the two dominant frameworks for high-level programming.

[King Coder]

I agree. The people arguing against it either don't have the experience too, or just plain suck at programming. It's not hard to write an optimized application.

[Newb-Man]

The thing about JAVA is that it is awkward to use. It has alot of possibilities to crash and is a very complicated language witch is just as powerful as alot of others.

Yet, don't get me wrong, I still stand beleiving that Java is a force to recogned with and can be EXTREMLY effective. Just has the MAJOR downfall of it oddasity.

PHP VS JAVA

1) Flexability

PHP: *****
JAVA: ***

2) Popularity

PHP: *****
JAVA: *****

3) Effectiveness

PHP: ****
JAVA: *****

4) Robustness


PHP: *****
JAVA: ***

5) Security
PHP: ***
JAVA: *****

[King Coder]

Originally Posted by Newb-Man

The thing about JAVA is that it is awkward to use. It has alot of possibilities to crash and is a very complicated language witch is just as powerful as alot of others.

Are you kidding? Java has the best error and exception handling there is. If your program crashes, then you just suck at programming.

PHP VS JAVA

1) Flexability

PHP: *****
JAVA: ***

Once again, are you kidding?

4) Robustness


PHP: *****
JAVA: ***

That's so wrong it's funny.

[Newb-Man]

Originally Posted by King Coder

Are you kidding? Java has the best error and exception handling there is. If your program crashes, then you just suck at programming.


Once again, are you kidding?


That's so wrong it's funny.

When I was talking about Flexability, I was talking about the fact that PHP is a very small, compact language which can be transfered place to place quiet easily when compared to Java.

Also, Robustness in terms of being able to depend on PHP to turn and twist in which ever way you want without it crashing.

Once more, JAVA is a great language witch has it's many Pro's and Con's.

PHP Has many Pro's and Con's also. Their Just two different languages that fill different requirements.

Also, to say VB is a newb language is an insult to all that practice it. VB does SO much and covers plains that few can reach with out that language. I don't know how to program much in VB but I am well aware of it's capabilities.