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Old 06-10-05, 02:50 PM
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Programmers needed for forum-building project

Hello All,

There is so much ground to cover! I've had this idea for a new forum application on my mind for almost six months now. It's one of those ideas that gets planted in the back of your head, then it grows and grows it just keeps growing and soon you can think of nothing else; it consumes you. Well this is how it has been for me, and I must say I think it is very good. I have been visualizing this for several months. So I've decide to take action, and pursue it, and here it is:

Background Information

As of this time we do not have a name for the forum software. But we are calling it it Codename: Evolution since my intention is for it to be a whole new evolution in forum software! I understand there are many other forum applications out there: vBulletin, IPB, and the major free ones, like phpBB, Simple Machines and punBB. Each has its strengths, and each has weaknesses inherent in them that I believe a new approach can solve. vBulletin - It is considered by many to be the highest standard in the industry. Not everyone can get their hands on it; it very expensive for many potential forum owners, and this discourages them from purchasing it. IPB - Most users do not like their staff, especially their President who constantly delays release dates, etc. It is also somewhat expensive, and it lacks features that are people prize in vB. phpBB - Arguably the most popular free BB out there is very nice. However, its quality, efficiency and features pale in comparison to the paid applications. It has a history marked by security holes, and since their staff is not getting paid, concerns may arise about timeliness and effectiveness of fixes. The same can be said for many of the other applications available at no cost.

Why another?

Why introduce another Bulletin Board on the market? As I mentioned earlier, each BB has its own weaknesses. We hope to eliminate all of the weakness the others have, and we've been brainstorming functionality that goes way beyond that offered by the strongest boards currently available.

Here (user IWDN password forums) is a list of mandatory/traditional features and innovative features, and we are adding more and tweaking this list every day. I'm confident this project can set a new standard for BBs, and I'm committed to putting together the right team to make it a reality.

How it came about

This idea came about as I was trying to find the BB that suited me best. When my forums were first made, we went with phpBB. We had registered about 25 members when phpBB was hacked. We did everything we could upgrade phpBB, PHP, MySQL, everything, but it was no use, the hacking continued relentlessly. We were forced to go to an alternative. phpBB was the best free BB in our eyes, and we wanted to make sure we didn't downgrade our functionality, especially with the number of modifications we'd make up to that point. So we purchased vB. vB was great once we laid down the cash, but everything can be improved, which we hope Evolution will do. We want to bring the best of every forum together into a single application and then take this a whole level higher.

What we need

Evolution is an idea waiting to be brought to life. We need people. We need as of this just only need programmers. We hope to get a one or two more programmers added to our current team. All participants need to be experienced and dedicated and at least 18 years of age to be legally bounded to our legal agreement. I am hoping to have this available for purchase in one year. Here is a rough timeline for which I'm shooting.

1 Week - Finish up new reply, new topic, start integrating smilies and BBCodes.

10 days - Start on the Administrator Control Panel.

2 Weeks - Making final touches on the client's side. Adding final links etc.

18 days - Start on installation script, and converters for all major Bulletin Boards.

From then on we will be optimizing the code as well as the database, trying to improve speed and accessibility. We will be attempting "breaking' "Evolution" to try and find all errors, and fix the code. Making final preparations for the private beta.

Around the end of July/Early September, we will be contacting certain board owners, who we all agree on about testing a private beta. The private beta will be approximately 2 weeks long. We will then open our public beta after all bugs have been fixed. The public beta will allow a maximum of 100 downloads per hour. We will have dedicated public betas, once every other week. In a single month we will allow 4800 beta testers. Once the public beta has ended, we will then submit "Evolution" to a private company, they will attempt to "hack" or exploit "Evolution", they will document all security problems, which we will then apply. We will then release "Evolution" Version 1.0 available for purchase.

As you can see its not a quick-and-dirty project. We want to take our time to create a product that stands out, quality over quantity (construction time). We want make it excellent, presentable to other companies, and to be competitors for other BBs like vBulletin. Most importantly, we have to identify and capture the market that needs our product.

For example, I'm proposing that this new system come with a parental control panel, where parents can sign up their children for a forum, and using their own CP, they can monitor their children's online activities. This would endear our product to companies and organizations that target minors, to the point that it might be the feature that sells the product. I'm proposing an optional self-imposed time/post limiting feature that can allow individuals to track, regulate and cap how much time they are spending on a site. This would help people with time management issues, and forum owners may find offering this sort of function makes for better quality contributions with less membership burnout.

I'm asking experienced programmers to contact me, at the very least to give me feedback on it, and at best, to be a part of the production team. If you know of anyone who might be a good fit for this project, I graciously request that you forward on my contact information so they can learn more about it from me.

There are still plenty of logistics that need to be sorted out. I understand developers are busy with their own projects, and we need to set realistic levels of involvement for people. There's the matter of pay; I'm asking for an investment of time on people's parts now for structured compensation in the future, and this needs to be ironed out. All developers that join the team, depending on level of excellences in their past work experiences, and how fast/great they work on the project may be paid $500, or all the way up to $2500, after 3 months of work. They will then stick with "Evolution" and get a share of all profits. At the very least a developer will get, $500, and a share of all profits, at the very most $2500, and a good sum of all the profits. There are matters pertaining to effectively managing this project in light of geographic/time zone inconveniences. There are logistics I'm certain I haven't considered, and this is one area where your feedback would be most valuable to me.

Contact

I am opening up many ways you can personally contact me, so we can further discuss this matter. Answer any questions you may have etc. Please be ready to be asked, your past work experiences, (portfolio, resume etc), your age, location, how long you've been programming, anything of this matter. I suggest you be prepared.

You can reach me on AIM at Tyler11999, you can also email me at tyler@cbttechs.com, or you may PM me here.

I look forward from hearing from you! Remember contacting someone never hurts, you may just fall as much in love with this project as I am!

Thank you everyone for reading this. I hope to hear from you soon!

Tyler Cole
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Old 06-10-05, 09:12 PM
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1. You should revise that time table.
2. How are you going to afford $2,500 for multiple programmers and price it below IPB and VB?
4. Would the programmers be paid per hour? I don't understand how the payment system works.
3. I've been reading a bunch of posts lately and Infinity has brought to my attention about a scammer who is looking for his own bulletin board system. So, how can we trust you?
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Old 06-11-05, 01:58 AM
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1. You should revise that time table.
2. How are you going to afford $2,500 for multiple programmers and price it below IPB and VB?
4. Would the programmers be paid per hour? I don't understand how the payment system works.
3. I've been reading a bunch of posts lately and Infinity has brought to my attention about a scammer who is looking for his own bulletin board system. So, how can we trust you?
i agree completely
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Old 06-11-05, 06:17 PM
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Sorry for the delay of my reply, I thought I subscribed to the thread, mistakenly didn't. I will do my best to answer the questions .

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Originally Posted by Fahim Ferdous
1. You should revise that time table.
It is very hard to judge how long it will take to complete an item. Many factors go into things such as, the level of the task, how many developers are working on it, if they can devote their full time. It is very difficult to judge a timeline based on these factors, and others. The timeline I listed is very rough, but we have a "private" items of things we need to complete.

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2. How are you going to afford $2,500 for multiple programmers and price it below IPB and VB?
We are currently only seeking 1 or 2 additions to the team. We also have a private investor, who funds us. We are paying him over time, and not immediately this allows us to price below our competitors but still giving the programmers enough money to produce a great product.

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4. Would the programmers be paid per hour? I don't understand how the payment system works.
We are at this time not seeking any developers who demand to be paid per hour. As we are not sure how long it will take each developer to complete their own part. At the very minimum you will receive $500, and a share of the profits, at the most $2,000 and a good sum of the profits.

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3. I've been reading a bunch of posts lately and Infinity has brought to my attention about a scammer who is looking for his own bulletin board system. So, how can we trust you?
I am very sorry but I am very new to the forums, so I do not know an "Infinity", but I am assuming it is a user. Trust is very hard over the Internet, I personally have been not-payed, or gave money to individuals the money who never completed the work. So we have an employment contract that allows no-one getting the "bad end" of the deal.

If you have anymore questions don't hesitate to contact me.
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Old 06-11-05, 06:45 PM
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At the very minimum you will receive $500, and a share of the profits, at the most $2,000 and a good sum of the profits.

I thought it was $2500 maximum, not $2000.
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Old 06-11-05, 06:48 PM
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I thought it was $2500 maximum, not $2000.
It is, I guess I should've revised my post!
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Old 06-11-05, 11:59 PM
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I have a fairly good startup of forum software that is quite unique. If you would be interested in purchasing a version of it to speed up things please let me know. I can give you a demo and show you some of the source code to show you my quality work.

The system already runs on smilies, templates, makes new topics/replies, etc.

I would like to see my baby turn into something great. I just can't do it on my own because of financial restraints.

Shoot an email over to donwilson@gmail.com.

Don
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Old 06-12-05, 12:27 AM
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I have a fairly good startup of forum software that is quite unique. If you would be interested in purchasing a version of it to speed up things please let me know. I can give you a demo and show you some of the source code to show you my quality work.

The system already runs on smilies, templates, makes new topics/replies, etc.

I would like to see my baby turn into something great. I just can't do it on my own because of financial restraints.

Shoot an email over to donwilson@gmail.com.

Don
Hello,

I'm afraid at this point in time "Evolution" has almost all of those features you listed, and is impossible at this time to rewrite or change it that drastically Thanks for the offer though!
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Old 06-12-05, 12:49 AM
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You're passing up a great system here. Logical HTML (<if condition="...">...<else>...</if>, like that found in vbulletin), "Cron" jobs (routine jobs to keep the forum updated) and a very advanced chaching system just to name a few.

The least you could do is have a glance at it and then make a decision.
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Old 06-12-05, 05:06 AM
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If you change anything because of input from people in this thread, change your time line, 18 days just isn't enough time for anything less than about a dozen coders. Ask some of your coders their oppionion about that time scale, and if they are being honest, then they will tell you its next to impossible to code a secure and as bugless as possible application of that size in 18 days.

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