[Stefan]

thanks for the info, though I already knew most of that. I know how it works, it's just that I most of the times don't really see the purpose, the advantage of working that way against working with other methods.

[Pineapple]

Originally posted by Stefan
yes I've heard these arguments a lot of times before. I still have a hard time seeing this in practice.

You're going to have to write some code for yourself to see it in practice.

[Cagez]

You could use it in lots of ways. I have a database class, a template class... You might want to make a sessions class etc. Its nice when you have everything neat and tidy.

[amailer]

Originally posted by Cagez
Its nice when you have everything neat and tidy.

OF COURSE IT IS!
and also it makes your work much better, and faster :0, even thought i don't use OO yet, i am learning how to :0

[Cagez]

Its not like its hard to do, I don't know why more people dont!

[gizmoitus]

Realistically most of the benefits one gets from OOP in an OOP language like Delphi, C++ or Java aren't available in the current very limited OOP available in PHP. It's no surprise then, that they have announced a complete overhaul of the PHP's oop constructs in a future release.

I still tend to use classes for organizational purposes, but there's no compelling reason to do so other than to gain a bit of organization.

One of the most important benefits of true OOP is inheritance, yet you rarely ever see anyone taking the time to derive classes from a base class in php. I think this pretty much speaks to the usefulness of php's OOP.

[jv2222]

I am amazed at this thread..

The idea of OOP not being useful bemuses me.

Justin

[amailer]

If your debugging a code, trust me OOP makes it much easier to find your problems

[Pineapple]

Originally posted by gizmoitus
Realistically most of the benefits one gets from OOP in an OOP language like Delphi, C++ or Java aren't available in the current very limited OOP available in PHP. It's no surprise then, that they have announced a complete overhaul of the PHP's oop constructs in a future release.

I still tend to use classes for organizational purposes, but there's no compelling reason to do so other than to gain a bit of organization.

One of the most important benefits of true OOP is inheritance, yet you rarely ever see anyone taking the time to derive classes from a base class in php. I think this pretty much speaks to the usefulness of php's OOP.

I definitely wouldn't say "most" of the benefits aren't available to PHP. Even with its limited OOP support you would be probably be surprised still at the difference between procedural and object-oriented programming in PHP.

Inheritance is definitely an important benefit, and PHP supports it. If there are programmers not taking the time to derive classes from a base class in PHP, that is not PHP's problem. I do it all the time myself.

If all you're getting is better organization by using PHP's OOP you're hardly using it properly. I totally agree that many great OOP features are missing from PHP but you can do more with it than you seem to be willing to admit. At least take advantage of the encapsulation. Yes we would all love to see exception handling, interfaces, real constructors and destructors, private and protected members, and such, but don't totally write off PHP's OOP.

[jv2222]

I think I might write a tutorial about this...