[digioz]

Which PHP CMS System do you like more and why?

[NeverMind]

CMS is for the weak!
j/k

I wonder if this would be considered spamming but I never really liked any CMS and I've tried plenty. They all feel bloated and never deliver what I want so I just make my own stuff

[digioz]

Originally Posted by NeverMind

CMS is for the weak!
j/k

I wonder if this would be considered spamming but I never really liked any CMS and I've tried plenty. They all feel bloated and never deliver what I want so I just make my own stuff

I agree with you, and I usually stay away from CMS myself. But if you get a client that know nothing about programming and wants something he can use to run his own site there is no other choice (unless you write your own CMS, which will cost the client way more then he can afford).


Pete


P.S. I am in no way trying to promote any of the above CMS. This is just to make it easier for me (and maybe others) to determine the pros and cons of popular CMS Packages.

[scott2500uk]

I started my programming life with PHP-Nuke. I made a few modules for it which are still popular today and free although I hate php-nuke now and I have moved on to making my own cms for my own sites and private use. That way I dont have to worry so much about known exploits as no one but me has seen the source code

[digioz]

Originally Posted by scott2500uk

I started my programming life with PHP-Nuke. I made a few modules for it which are still popular today and free although I hate php-nuke now and I have moved on to making my own cms for my own sites and private use. That way I dont have to worry so much about known exploits as no one but me has seen the source code

I absolutely agree with you on that. Its just that sometimes I am forced to install CMS for customers because they don't have the budget to pay for me to write one for them from scratch. Other then that I try to stay away from PHP CMS myself.

[scott2500uk]

Originally Posted by digioz

I absolutely agree with you on that. Its just that sometimes I am forced to install CMS for customers because they don't have the budget to pay for me to write one for them from scratch. Other then that I try to stay away from PHP CMS myself.

same here when ever I install a cms for some one I take a cms that is a few versions behind and has plenty of security addons.

for example if I was to install phpnuke I would install version 7.8 (most exploits have been found already) patch it for known exploits. I then throw in a few extra security measures of my own and then also include nuke sentinel. Also remove any non needed modules, addons etc.

Ive been running version 7.8 on my server for 3 years now and not once the site has been breached but nuke sentinel has detected 1000's of attempts of known exploits.

Although Id like to add I wouldnt use phpnuke now as it seems to be a dying cms as most module creaters have moved on (me being one of them)!

I hear a lot of people like Joomla but everytime Ive played with it it seems so complicated. And with my bad experiences with it I refuse to add it. eg moving to and from windows and linux servers. When you do that you have to make lots of manual edits to update all the paths. Ais

[zenox]

I'm just the opposite of all of you I use to always develop all of my CMS from scratch. Then I started using QCodo as my backend database management, and have since moved onto Joomla. I found that making a full CMS from scratch took to long where I can crack out 3-4 joomla pages in a week.

My choice may be that I suck at design. With Joomla I can just grab a template and set it up over my code. Where when I build something from scratch I have to do it myself.

[scott2500uk]

I must admit its great to get to know a cms and create some great addons/pages for it but when you start to build sites from scratch you can build in things that you need and what cant be achieved easily in a cms.

When building my own websites I do use the same file structure as phpnuke but thats it.

[Rapid Dr3am]

Never used a CMS really, I used to do an awfull lot in phpBB (before I fell out with the community). I used to code a custom CMS into it (doubt I have any code anymore though).

I seem to recall I have at some point used Joomla or Mambo, I forge which one as it has changed it's name to one of those two now but was called something else back then. I think I have used GeekLog and then took the code apart for my use.

These days, I avoid coding anything that doesn't have an absolute purpose so I can't use a CMS as all projects are bespoke.

[TheKiser]

Originally Posted by NeverMind

CMS is for the weak!

I agree with the sentiment but when you work on a project with some "monkeys" and one of them f***s up an important module it is nice to be able to go back (especially if you're the monkey).

It is really only necessary if three or more people are working on the same project. Minimizes conflicting changes.